Tuesday, November 25, 2025

21.11.25: Group Resources [4] follow-up on the previous post

Referring to:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/latinforstarters/posts/836908405587096/

The theme of these ‘group resources’ posts is not only to list what is on file here in the group and links, but to give some guidance to the question Magister Andrews originally posed: there are truckloads of Latin resources online, but how do you find “the diamond in the rough” because, frankly, there are also truckloads of garbage, all of which – and I know from my own experience – will simply be a waste of time and could mislead you to believe that Latin, while no doubt challenging (there’s no getting around that), is simply too high a hill to climb. But it can be climbed; you just need to find your way. However, if you’re a beginner, how do you know what is useful and what is not? Well, that can be a personal decision; what I’ve listed in these recent posts is what I thought would be appropriate for the different levels in this group but I would never say that there is some sort of definitive list.

Videos and listening resources can be a nightmare. I’ve spent more time selecting them – and many of them still had to be edited – than on any other resource. Magister Andrews has done a few of these little videos already, and I hope he does more. Why do I like them?

[1] It isn’t ‘fancy’ – it isn’t full of zappy video effects and “Gladiator” soundtracks which may suggest that a presenter is concentrating more on the look than the content, and there’s ample evidence of that online.

[2] It is short and focussed, it deals with a limited range of vocabulary, and the intentions are clear. He titles his videos ‘Latin from Zero’ i.e. he knows exactly who his ‘target audience’ is and so he doesn’t give you some rambling introduction – in Latin – which, if you’re only starting, will be confusing, nor does he give ‘examples’ using more advanced levels or go off at a tangent talking about something that has nothing to do with the topic in hand.

He does add a ‘side note’ – calceōs foedōs ignosce │ forgive (my) filthy shoes – but that isn’t a key piece of information; he’s already told us what matters in this video.

[3] He never speaks in English, but simply gives you the phrases with a translation as an additional reference. He illustrates the vocabulary by his own physical movements, visual references, and the pace of his voice.

[4] He doesn’t pretend to be a Roman. I have no issues with people who like to think they are, or eat dormice or invade Gaul, but when they talk at full speed using every grammatical structure Latin has on offer, and you’re just starting out, then it can be very intimidating. I really stress the word intimidating; there can be a lot of that online.

[5] He doesn’t make mistakes, nor does his pronunciation sound as if somebody is scraping their nails on a blackboard. He uses standard Classical Latin pronunciation and correct vowel lengths. Occasionally I have worked with videos where there has been some minor error – nobody’s perfect – but it doesn’t detract from the quality of what has been done, and if I can’t edit it, I always note it.

[6] He has a consistent style. We like consistency, and we become comfortable with the style and voice of a presenter. One of the problems in Youtube is that you may come across a video relating to, for example, a particular book, but the presenters don’t follow through and produce videos on all the chapters. My posts on Sonnenschein’s Ora Maritima were a rare find since there are listening resources for the entire book.

Thanks, Magister Andrews – and your filthy shoes are forgiven 😊 – just don’t dress up as a gladiator.

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