Tuesday, July 21, 2026

22.07.26: The Orbis Sensualium Pictus of Comenius – the book that survived troubled times

  • The images are original and simply sharpened by AI since the typeface was not always clear.
  • In the video, there are a few AI generated images to try to convey what life was like at that time
  • The music for the video is 16th century: from the Dansereye by Tielman Susato (1551)

The Orbis Sensualium Pictus of Comenius has been a fabulous source of vocabulary and has provided a platform for expanding on the content. First published in 1658, the Orbis Pictus is a series of detailed and numbered images organised thematically, with accompanying Latin and, in the 1659 edition, English texts. It is a constant time-travelling companion to the 17th century. However, I paused for a while and wondered what life was like for the kids who were reading it, those who were teaching from it – and the man who sold it.

UK members in particular may be interested to know that the Latin-English version of this book (which is used in all the posts) was published in 1659, the year after the death of Oliver Cromwell but before the Restoration of the Monarchy:

[Images #1 and #2]

JOH. AMOS COMENIUS's
VISIBLE WORLD.
OR,
A Picture and Nomenclature of all the chief
Things that are in the world, and of
Mens Employments therein.

Translated into English,

By CHARLES HOOLE, Teacher of a

Private Grammar-School in

Lothbury, LONDON.

For the use of young Latine-Scholars.

LONDON,

Printed for J. Kirton, at the Kings-

Arms, in Saint Paules Church-yard, 1659.


(1) The ‘Kings-Arms’ refers to a sign protruding from above the shop front. However, not all businesses had signs indicating what they sold. Saint Paul’s Church Yard was the hub of the London book trade, and so signs which depicted, for example, a bell, or an ‘angell’ were used to distinguish one shop from another. The name ‘Kings-Arms’ was used throughout the Cromwellian period (other publications refer to it), and so it was an equivalent of a legal trade-mark rather than any (unwise) declaration of support for the monarchy. If Cromwell could order the beheading of a king, then no bookseller was going to stand up to him.

(2) Images #3 and #4: Charles Hoole’s school was at Tokenhouse Yard, Lothbury. The frontispiece of another work by Hoole specifically states this:

Aesop. Æsop’s fables, English and Latine. … By Charles Hoole, Mr. in Arts, L.C. Oxon; and teacher of a private grammar school, in the Token-House in Lothbury, near the Royall Exchange, London. London: Printed by W. Wilson, for the Company of Stationers, 1657.

That same area is described in terrifying detail by Defoe during the Plague Year of 1665 although, by that point, Hoole was no longer working there:

“Passing through Token-House Yard in Lothbury, of a sudden a casement violently opened just over my head, and a woman gave three frightful screeches, and then cried, “O death, death, death!” in a most inimitable tone, and which struck me with horror, and a chillness in my very blood. There was nobody to be seen in the whole street, neither did any other window open, for people had no curiosity now in any case, nor could anybody help one another.”

In 1665, 3880 Londoners died of the plague – in one week.

That district was razed to the ground in 1666 by the Great Fire of London.


(3) Image #5: Saint Paul’s Churchyard, the location of Kirton’s shop, suffered the same fate. One of his clients was Samuel Pepys, who notes in his diary: ‘I hear Kirton my bookseller, poor man, is dead; I believe of grief for his losses by the fire’. (11th November 1667)

(4) Image #6: It’s just one book, but it survived those troubled times – although, tragically, there were thousands of people who did not. The book had a further edition in 1672 – after the Restoration – that no longer simply refers to the ‘Kings-Arms’ shop sign, but to Charles II, the King himself.


18.02.27: Level 2 (review); Carolus et Maria [40] (3)

NOTE: This the last post on the textbook 'Carolus et Maria'; the entire book has been discussed in a total of 147 posts; the link to all of them is at:

https://adckl.blogspot.com/search/label/textbook%3A%20Carolus%20et%20Maria

Ōlim vesperī magistra cum discipulīs ad silvam it. Cēnam portāvērunt. Secūrēs sūmpsērunt. Puerī arborēs parvās secūribus suīs cecīdērunt frēgēruntque quod ignem facere voluērunt. Post cēnam omnēs circum ignem sē disposuērunt. Intereā discipulī fābulam postulāvērunt. Hōc modō magistra nārrāre incēpit:

“Multīs ante annīs per hās ipsās silvās prīmī incolae Americānī errābant. Barbarī ab hostibus Britannīs appellābantur. Saepe apud hōs incolās ignēs huius generis vidēbantur. Apud Britannōs cōnspectus eōrum ignium signum perīculī esse putābātur, quandō ipsī aut fugiēbant aut in castella recipiēbant et per vigiliās noctis sine quiēte sē dēfendēbant. Saepe Britannī secūrēs sūmēbant et arborēs caedēbant. Tum castella validiōra faciēbant.

“Multī barbarī, autem, erant benignī et aliōs incolās occīdere nōlēbant, sed saepe iniūriae hostium eōrum erant magnae. Posteā ubi barbarī ē rēgnō suō ab hostibus pellēbantur ipsī saevī et dūrī fīēbant. Semper paucī ex barbarīs cum hostibus pācem restituere volēbant. Tum hostēs eōrum ad ignem magnum invītābantur et erat pāx. At intereā hostēs erant perfidī. Tum barbarī impetūs magnōs facere cōnstituēbant. Usque ad castella hostium succēdēbant et castella circumveniēbant. Hostēs ē castellīs exīre nōn poterant quod undique castella circumventa sunt.

“Barbarī nōn semper pugnābant. Saepe cantābant et saltābant. Interdum animālia capiēbant. Equōs validōs habēbant et bonī equitēs in summō honōre habēbantur. Nōnne vōs etiam nunc in animīs vestrīs sonitum pedum equōrum paene audītis?”

Diū omnēs siluērunt. Postrēmō “Habēbanturne fēminae in summō honōre?” rogāvit Maria.

“Minimē,” respondit magistra. “Fēminae, autem, nōn erant semper miserae quamquam officia eārum erant magna difficiliaque.”

Post fīnem fābulae Maria “Utra est grātior vīta,” rogāvit, “nostra an vīta barbarōrum?”

“Nostra,” clāmāvērunt puellae. At puerī ita nōn putāvērunt.

[1] Give the 1st person singular present tense of the following verbs from the text:

[i] it

[ii] sūmpsērunt

[iii] cecīdērunt

[iv] frēgērunt

[v] disposuērunt

[vi] nōlēbant

[vii] fīēbant

[viii] poterant

[ix] siluērunt

[2] Give the nominative singular of the following nouns from the text:

[i] hostibus

[ii] ignēs

[iii] generis

[iv] noctis

[v] quiēte

[vi] animālia

[vii] equitēs

[viii] pedum

[3] Identify (1) the case and (2) declension of the noun in bold and (3) explain why it is being used:

[i] barbarī … ab hostibus pellēbantur

[ii] barbarī impetūs magnōs facere cōnstituēbant

[4] Identify the clause type

[i]  ubi barbarī ē rēgnō suō ab hostibus pellēbantur …

[ii] … quod undique castella circumventa sunt.

[iii] … quamquam officia eārum erant magna difficiliaque.

[5] Identify the type of word in bold:

[i] ōlim

[ii] frēgēruntque

[iii] Tum castella validiōra faciēbant.

[iv] quandō ipsī aut fugiēbant aut in castella sē recipiēbant

[v] recipiēbant

[vi] ē rēgnō suō

[vii] ipsī saevī et dūrī fīēbant

[viii] officia eārum

[6] Find from the text a one word synonym for nōn semper.

[7] Translate, focussing on the words on in bold:

[i] Hōc modō magistra nārrāre incēpit:

[ii] Usque ad castella hostium

[iii] Apud Britannōs

[iv] “Habēbanturne fēminae in summō honōre?”

[8] Explain the meaning and use of the words in bold:

[i] [a] “Utra est grātior vīta,” rogāvit, “nostra [b] an vīta barbarōrum?”

[ii] Nōnne vōs etiam nunc … audītis?”

[9] Explain the differences in verb usage between:

[a] castella circumveniēbant

[b] castella circumventa sunt

____________________

[1]

[i] eō; [ii] sūmō; [iii] caedō; [iv] frangō; [v] dispōnō; [vi] nōlō; [vii] fīō; [viii] possum; [ix] sileō

[2]

[i] hostis; [ii] ignis; [iii] genus; [iv] nox; [v] quiēs; [vi] animal; [vii] eques; [viii] pēs

[3]

[i] hostibus: ablative; 3rd declension; used after ab to show the agent of the passive verb pellēbantur

[ii] impetūs: accusative; 4th declension; direct object of facere

[4]

[i] temporal clause

[ii] causal clause

[iii] concessive clause

[5]

[i] adverb (of time)

[ii] enclitic particle acting as a conjunction

[iii] comparative adjective

[iv] conjunctions; specifically correlative conjunctions since they are used together

[v] reflexive pronoun

[vi] reflexive possessive adjective referring to the subject of the sentence

[vii] emphatic pronoun

[viii] possessive pronoun

[6] interdum

[7]

[i] In this way the teacher began to tell the story.

[ii] Right up to the enemies’ forts.

[iii] Among the Britons.

[iv] Were women held in the highest honour?

[8]

[i]

[a] utra: which (of two)?; suggests there are two alternative answers

[b] an: or; introduces the second alternative i.e. X or Y?

[ii] nōnne: surely?; the answer is expected to be positive

[9]

[a] circumveniēbant: active verb; they surrounded the forts

[b] circumventa sunt: passive verb; the forts were / have been surrounded

17.02.27: Level 1; step-by-step; scaffolding [2] identifying nouns

[A]

vīnum | wine

Quid est hoc? | What is this?

Vīnum est. | It’s wine.  

  • X est | It is X.

Estne aqua? | Is it water?

  • Estne X? | Is it X?

Nōn est aqua. | It’s not water

  • Nōn est X| It is not X.

Vīnum est. | It’s wine.

  • Y est | It’s Y.

The patterns can be used with no changes to the nouns.

Quid est hoc?

Elephantus est.

Estne crocodīlus?

Nōn est crocodīlus.

Elephantus est.

Exercise

Practise creating your own dialogue using the ‘scaffold’ below with some nouns related to food and drink.

Quid est hoc?

__________ est.

Estne __________ ?

Nōn est __________.

__________ est.

  • aqua: water
  • cervisia: beer
  • bāca: berry
  • olīva: olive
  • būtȳrum: butter
  • cāseus: cheese
  • mālum: apple
  • ōvum: egg
  • pirum: pear
  • vīnum: wine



16.02.27: Level 1; First Latin Lessons (4); genitive case: 1st declension; singular and plural

I: Agricola est amīcus nautae. Nauta est amīcus poētae. Poēta est amīcus fīliārum tuārum. Fīliae tuae poētam amant.

II: Poēta incola Americae est. Sed Italia est patria poētae. Poēta fīliam habet. America est patria fīliae poētae. Poēta Italiam amat. Fīlia poētae Americam amat.

III: Incolae īnsulārum sunt agricolae et nautae. Vīta agricolārum vīta bona est. Poētae saepe vītam agricolārum laudant. Vītam nautārum interdum laudāmus. Nautae multās terrās vident. Sed vīta nautārum perīculōsa est.

IV: Nauta amīcus agricolae est. Soror mea epistulam puellae habet. Hibernia patria nautae est. Soror parvārum puellārum epistulās scrībit. Incolae īnsulae nautae sunt. Incolae multārum īnsulārum agricolae sunt.

(1) vocabulary

  • amīcus: friend (male)
  • bona: good
  • incola: inhabitant
  • interdum: sometimes
  • laudant: (they) praise
  • nauta: sailor
  • perīculōsa: dangerous
  • poēta: poet
  • vident: (they) see
  • vīta: life

(2) The genitive case has a number of uses, one of which expresses possession, the equivalent of English:

The sailor’s friend; an inhabitant of America; the farmers’ life; the inhabitants of the islands

  • amīcus nautae | a friend of the sailor [ = the sailor’s friend]
  • incola Americae | an inhabitant of America
  • vīta agricolārum | The life ¦ of the farmers [ = the farmers’ life]
  • incolae īnsulārum | inhabitants of the islands

This text deals with the genitive case of 1st declension nouns:

1st declension: nouns end in -a

Nominative singular: puella

[i] Genitive singular: puellae

Nominative plural: puellae

[ii] Genitive plural: puellārum

(4)

[i] genitive case singular: -ae

Agricola est amīcus ¦ nautae. 

  • The farmer is the friend ¦ of the sailor [ = the sailor’s friend]

Soror mea epistulam ¦ puellae ¦ habet.

  • My sister has ¦ the girl’s ¦ letter.

America est patria ¦ [i] fīliae ¦ [ii] poētae.

  • America is the homeland ¦ [i] of the daughter ¦ [ii] of the poet [ = of the poet’s daughter]

[ii] genitive case plural: -ārum

Vīta ¦ agricolārum ¦ vīta bona est.

  • The life ¦ of the farmers [ = the farmers’ life] ¦ is a good life.

The same endings apply to 1st / 2nd declension adjectives:

Soror ¦ parvae puellae ¦ epistulās scrībit.

  • The sister ¦ of the little girl [ = the little girl’s sister] ¦ writes letters.

Soror ¦ parvārum puellārum ¦ epistulās scrībit.

  • The sister ¦ of the little girls [ = the little girls’ sister] ¦ writes letters.

Poēta est amīcus ¦ fīliae tuae. 

  • The poet is a friend ¦ of your daughter [ = your daughter’s friend]

Poēta est amīcus ¦ fīliārum tuārum. 

  • The poet is a friend ¦ of your daughters [ = your daughters’ friend]

Incolae ¦ multārum īnsulārum ¦ agricolae sunt.

  • The inhabitants ¦ of many islands ¦ are farmers.

LINKS

01.03.24: genitive case singular and plural of 1st declension nouns

https://adckl.blogspot.com/2024/04/10324-genitive-case-singular-and-plural.html

all posts:

https://adckl.blogspot.com/search/label/genitive%20case


____________________

I: The farmer is the sailor's friend. The sailor is the poet's friend. The poet is your daughters' friend. Your daughters love the poet.

II: The poet is an inhabitant of America. But Italy is the poet's homeland. The poet has a daughter. America is the homeland of the poet's daughter. The poet loves Italy. The poet's daughter loves America.

III: The inhabitants of the islands are farmers and sailors. The farmers' life is a good life. Poets often praise the farmers' life. We sometimes praise the sailors' life. Sailors see many lands. But the sailors' life is dangerous.

IV: The sailor is the farmer's friend. My sister has the girl's letter. Ireland is the sailor's homeland. The little girls' sister writes letters. The island's inhabitants are sailors. The inhabitants of many islands are farmers.

14.02.27: Level 4; literature; Mediaeval; Tacuinum Sānitātis (6): the benefits of garlic

Alleum │ Garlic

Using the previous text as a guide, and the vocabulary which has been given in previous posts on this topic, try to answer the questions about the benefits or otherwise of garlic. The text together with its translation is attached.

Alleum 

Complēctiō calida in 4° sicca in 3°

Ēlēctiō meliōrā ex eō est quī modicē acuitātis est

Iuuāmentum contrā uenēna frīgida et morsus scorpiōnum et uīperārum et interficit uermēs

Nocumentum nocet oculīs et cerebrō

Remōtiō nocumentī cum acētō et oleō

Quid generat hūmōrem grossum et acūtum

Conuenit frīgidīs dēcrepitīs et senibus hyēme* et montānīs et septentriōnālibus.

*alternative spelling of hieme

acuitās, acuitātis [3/f]: (Mediaeval); sharpness; intensity

The translation gives this as ‘juiciness’ which is also possible since there is a rare word – aqueitās – which means ‘wateriness’ or ‘moisture’, but the manuscript is clear in its use of acuitātis

acūtus, -a, -um: sharp

cerebrum, -ī [2/n]: brain

grossus, -a, -um: (Mediaeval) thick

hiems, hiemis [3/f]: winter

modicē: moderately < modicus, -a, -um: moderate

montānus, -a, -um: (adjective) mountain; mountainous

morsus, -ūs [4/m]: bite; sting

septentriōnālis, -e: northern

venēnum, -ī [2/n]: poison

vermis, -is [3/m]: worm

____________________

[i] Is garlic [a] cold [b] hot [c] dry [d] wet?

[ii] The best type is moderately __________.

[iii] True or false? You can use garlic to treat poisons.

[iv] Garlic is good if you are bitten by __________ and __________.

[v] What can garlic kill?

[vi] Garlic damages the __________ and the __________.

[vii] Damage can be remedied with __________ and __________.

[viii] The text refers to the humours i.e. bodily fluids, in particular the four "cardinal humours" - blood, yellow bile, black bile and phlegm – believed to control the health and mood of the human body.

What two effects does garlic have on the humour?

[ix] Garlic is advisable:

[a] for what kind of conditions?

[b] for what kind of people?

[c] in what season?

[d] in what regions?


14.02.27: Level 4; literature; Mediaeval; Tacuinum Sānitātis (5): vocabulary

Sparagus

Complēctiō calida et hūmida in prīmō Ēlēctiō recentēs cuius summitātēs dēclīnant ad terram Iuuāmentum addunt in coitū et aperiunt opilatiōnēs Nocumentum nocent uillīs stomachī Remōtiō nocumentī postquam elisātī sunt comedantur cum mūri(ā) aut acētō Quid generant nūtrīmentum bonum Conueniunt frīgidīs et siccīs senibus et dēcrepitīs in vēre et in regiōnibus in quibus reperiuntur.

That little text comprises just over 50 words, despite which a great deal can be learned from it. Not only does it give us an insight into the content of a Mediaeval medical handbook, but, by picking and choosing, we can review common vocabulary. Match the Latin with the English in the word cloud:

  1. acētum, -ī  [2/n]
  2. addō, -ere, addidī, additus [3]
  3. calidus, -a, -um
  4. coitus, -ūs [4/m]
  5. comedō, -ere, comēdī, comēsus [3]
  6. conveniō, -īre, -vēnī. conventus [4]
  7. dēclīnō, -āre, -āvī, -ātus [1]
  8. dēcrepitus, -a, -um
  9. frīgidus, -a, -um
  10. hūmidus, -a, -um
  11. noceō, -ēre, -uī, nocitus [3]
  12. nūtrīmentum, -ī [2/n]
  13. recēns, recentis
  14. regiō, regiōnis [3/f]
  15. reperiō, -īre, repperī, repertus [4]
  16. senex, senis [3 m/f]
  17. siccus, -a, -um
  18. stomachus, -ī [2/m]
  19. terra, -ae [1/f]
  20. vēr, -is [3/n]

add; be suitable; bend; cold; discover; dry; eat; fresh / recent; harm; hot; joining; land; nourishment; old person; region; spring; stomach; very old; vinegar; wet / moist

14.02.27: Level 4; literature; Mediaeval; Tacuinum Sānitātis (4): reading Mediaeval Manuscripts [2]: superscript letters; u/v; long s

Image Set #4

[i] Abbreviation by superscript letters can simply indicate the ending of the word; we use superscript in ordinal numbers e.g. 1st 2nd but is used far more widely in the manuscripts:

ī po│ in p[rim]o

iuua   iuua[men]tum

nocu │ nocu[men]tum

nocuti nocu[men]ti

ſtoi│sto[machi]; in another section of the manuscript he writes the same superscript i alone for nocumenti i.e. noci• with identical formation of i

[ii] superscript i: above q, it denotes the superscript letter itself and the vowel u

Qid │ quid

[iii] superscript bȝ: [ȝ] this sign is very often used to represent the dative and ablative plural endings of the third, fourth and fifth declension i.e. bus

ī regiobȝ │ in regio[ni]bus

As mentioned above, scribes do not always adhere to the rules; the same /bȝ/ is also found in the manuscript but not as superscript, and, elsewhere, it can have different meanings.

ſeībȝ │ se[n]ibus

[iv] As we still do today, a dot (period) can be placed after the word to indicate truncation. In this manuscript, the writer places most of these below the superscript letters. 

Image Set #5

[v] Classical Latin had no /v/ sound as in very; in inscriptions V = u (CIRCVS MAXIMVS [kirkoos maksimoos]

The sound can be:

[1] as a separate vowel either short or long (the latter in edited texts marked by a macron: ū): sum, tū

[2] as a semi-vocalic sound similar to English w before another vowel: uideō [wideo], amāuī [amawi]

Ecclesiastical Latin distinguishes these two both in writing and in pronunciation, the semi-vocalic of [2] being pronounced as Modern English  i.e. [1] sum [soom]; [2] videō [video]

In most edited texts (including textbooks) for Classical Latin that distinction is maintained in writing i.e. sum / videō, but the original pronunciation of [2] as w is retained. Some textbooks, however, e.g. Jones and Sidwell’s Reading Latin, retain u for both.

In the manuscript there is no distinction in:

Iuua• │ Iuua-; cōuēiūt │ conueniunt

Using our most common means of distinguishing between these two iuvamentum and conveniunt would appear in a dictionary or textbook, but the scribe did not distinguish them and the transcription should reflect what he wrote. He does, however, write v at the beginning of vere.

This variation of /v/ and /u/ is evident in the first folio of Shakespeare’s works (1623), the initial letter of the word regardless written as /v/, in all other instances written as /u/ regardless of pronunciation.

From Macbeth (Act I, scenes 1 and 2):

[i] Valours; Victorie; Villainies: reflect the pronunciation of /v/, but:

the Victorie felt on vs [us]

Vpon the Heath; vpon the Foe [upon]

to our generall vse [use]

[ii] Below are examples where /u/ represents both sounds:

thunder / houer through the fog and filthy air [hover]

I must report / ouer-charg’d [over]

braue [brave]; deſerues [deserves]; lauiſ [lavish]; leaue [leave]; Reuolt [revolt];

A bit of “gentle” Shakespeare shows both these letters in action:

“Till he vnseam’d [unseamed] him from the Naue [Nave] toth’ Chops, And fix’d his head vpon [upon] our Battlements” │ Until he split him from belly to jaw and stuck his head upon our castle walls.

Image Set #6

Look out for the long s: ſ, not to be confused with f:

ſic │ sic[cis]

ſunt │ sunt

ſeībȝ │ se[n]ib[u]s

Both the long s and the ‘round’ s we have now are used in the manuscripts. You can learn the “rules” from a vegetable. Long s is not used:

[i] for upper case letters: Sparagus (but small case ſunt)

[ii] at the end of the word: Sparagus, ſūmitates │ su[m]mitates

It needs to be emphasised that, despite there being common abbreviations which can be identified by “a few simple rules”, there are some very peculiar forms with meanings that are not always consistent. Below is my attempt to transcribe this text using the abbreviations as they are used in the manuscript; I can’t vouch 100% for its accuracy but the group is entitled “Latin for Learners” – and I’m learning about this too! Any comments or amendments are welcome.

Sparagus Complc̄ cal + hm¯ ī poElec̄ recentes cui  ſūmitates declināt ad terrā  Iuua addūt in coitu, et aperiūt opilatioēs¯ Nocu nocēt uillis ſtoi•  Remō nocuti poſt̃ eliſati ſunt comedātur cū muri aut aceto Quid gnant nutrimentū bonū Cōuēiūt frīs et ſic ſeībȝ + decrepitis in vere et ī regiobȝ • in quibus reiūtur.

13.02.27: Level 3+ (review); correlatives [5] making comparisons (2) tantum … quantum …

[x] tantum … quantum … | as much … as …

The first three examples from Adler show tantumquantum with a noun in the genitive case:

tantum panis [genitive] quantum lactis [genitive] emit

  • She buys as much (of) bread as (of) milk

dā mihi tantum aquae quantum vīnī

  • Give me as much (of) water as (of) wine

Habēsne tantum aurī quantum argentī?

  • Do you have as much gold as silver?

These quotations from Plautus use the same construction:

quīn ex occlūsō atque obsignātō armāriō dēcutiō ¦ argentī tantum ¦ quantum mihi lubet (Plautus)

  • why, though his chest is shut up and sealed, yet I shake ¦ as much money ¦ out of it as I like

cui bonī tantum afferō quantum ipsus [ = ipse] ā dīs optat, atque etiam amplius (Plautus)

  • I'm bringing him as much good fortune as he desires from the gods, and even more.

But you should expect variations:

… mihique ¦ ex agrō tuō tantum ¦ adsignēs, quantum meō corpore occupārī potest (Cicero)

  • and allot me ¦ as much of your land ¦ as can be occupied by my body

The use of the correlative is not only with nouns and often functions purely as an adverb:

amāta tantum quantum amābitur nūlla (Catullus)

  • loved as much as no other will (ever) be loved

nōn queō tantum, quantum vereor, scrībere (Cicero)

  • I cannot write as much as I fear [ = I cannot write all my fears]

meam āmentiam accūsō, quod mē ā tē tantum amārī, quantum ego vellem, putāvī (Cicero)

  • I blame my foolishness, because I thought I was loved by you as much as I would wish.

The construction reversed:

Domum mē rūrsum quantum poterō tantum recipiam (Plautus)

  • I'll come back home as much as I can [less literally: … just as fast as I can]

Two correlatives in the same extract:

mōtum in rē pūblicā nōn tantum ego impendēre videō, quantumaut vidēs aut ad mē cōnsōlandum adfers (Cicero)

I do not see the change in the state as so imminent as you either see it or bring to me for consolation.

The three quotations below – all from Cicero’s letters to Atticus – well illustrate the need to be flexible in translation. At this higher level of Latin, a dictionary translation of a construction may act as a starting point, but it is not necessarily the solution. The Latin original may need to be reworked to achieve greater fluency. The translations given are from the Loeb edition (translator: Winstedt).

(1) … sī mē amās tantum, quantum profectō amās … (Cicero)

[Lit: … if you love me as much as you surely love …]

  • if your affection for me is as real as I know it to be (transl. Winstedt)

(2) ‘tantum’ as an independent adverb means ‘only’, and that sense can be conveyed in the correlative construction:

ita sum ab omnibus dēstitūtus, ut tantum requiētis [genitive] habeam, quantum cum uxōre et fīliolā et mellītō Cicerōne cōnsūmitur. 

[Lit: I am so deprived of everything, that I have only as much rest as is spent with my wife, my little daughter and darling little Cicero.]

  • So utterly am I deserted, that the only moments of repose I have are those which are spent with my wife, my little daughter and darling boy. (transl. Winstedt)

(3) Two correlative constructions in the same sentence

nec tantum intellegēbam eī esse offēnsiōnis, quantum litterae tuae dēclārārant, nec tantum prōficiēbam, quantum volēbam (Cicero)

[Lit: And I neither understood that he had as much offence as your letter had declared, nor did I make as much progress as I wanted.]

  • I could neither find that he was as much annoyed as your letter makes out, nor yet make as much headway with him as I wished. (transl. Winstedt)